Government Job vs. Private Sector: Weighing the Options!

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    Beth

      Consider selling the house, you shouldn’t spend more than 2-2.5X gross income (175k X 2). I would seriously consider selling and down sizing.

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      Brittney

        I mean this in the nicest way, but you cannot afford the home you live in.

        Can you sell and then rent? Downsize to something smaller? Move to a different, lower cost neighborhood?

        #92485 Reply
        Matt

          Scientist with MS in industry should be making more than 95k with 15+ YoE, especially if in HCOL. Time to hop friend. Good luck!

          #92486 Reply
          Jake

            When people ask if they should do option a or b, they tend to forget about the rest of the alphabet. Why not choose a job with better pay AND stability?

            #92487 Reply
            Heather

              I really don’t think you can afford your home now and I would be very concerned about a pay decrease with your current housing costs.

              Though, I do think considering the job change is beneficial for security.

              But only if you are able to get out from under that mortgage.

              Also, check out: MFT Masters Debt: Keep job, cut expenses, optimize aid for better future?

              #92488 Reply
              Lisa

                Your mortgage is high! Chances are that mortgage payment will go up due to taxes and insurance! Someone will need to increase their salary or take a 2nd part time job!

                Truthfully, I’m surprised y’all were approved for that mortgage!

                #92489 Reply
                Kerry

                  Don’t forget to count all your benefits from you benefit package at each job when you compare compensation rates.

                  I was once offered a job that was a 12k raise, but once I factored in benefits (I was already in a government job) it was actually a cut.

                  #92490 Reply
                  DeLanna

                    Federal, state or local gov’t? If federal, consider TSP (aka 401k) matching, job trajectory/growth potential, possibility of PSLF if you have student loans, educational opportunities if you’re interested in further education, job stability, work-life balance & amount of leave you will earn. Also personal satisfaction in knowing what you do is important & meaningful (I’m a federal employee in the Air Force & proud of what I do).

                    If you’d be working Dept of Defense and on a base or post, there are lots of neat opportunities on those facilities (library, auto shop, tickets & travel office, commissary, outdoor recreation & equipment rentals,etc).

                    #92491 Reply
                    Diana

                      I’d struggle taking a 20k paycut with that mortgage. I feel like you’re already stretched thin.

                      I do think it’s worth asking about the pay increases and I don’t know how state jobs worth but federal govt used to be with x amount of years in you could retire at 55 and get health benefits for life which is huge if you are able to achieve FI and not have to worry as much about medical expenses. But unless your house payment could decrease or the govt salary increases quickly I wouldn’t want to do it.

                      & Don’t miss: How long do you wait to job hop seeking better opportunities? What do you factor in when making that decision?

                      #92492 Reply
                      Laura

                        Take into account the fact that after working a certain number of years you will have access to good health insurance for life, also possibly a pension. This could reduce your fi number.

                        One of my parents worked a federal job for 15 years and this boosted her retirement a lot, it is also part of her retirement that will not be affected by the economy (for better or worse) but it is nice to have that balance.

                        The stability with a federal job is huge also….

                        #92493 Reply
                        Sarah

                          I can’t afford that mortgage and you make way less than me. That’s insane. #1— downsize home

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                          Suvranil

                            If I knew my company is dropping folks consistently, I would jump on the Govt job, unless you are irreplaceable.

                            You are already in a tight situation and if you get laid off your situation will turn worse.

                            #92495 Reply
                            Lisa

                              Government job has a pension, so not contributing to a retirement for a couple of years is ok. Just try and start back up when you’ve readjusted to your new salary.

                              #92496 Reply
                              Montse

                                Is there an area of your house that is or could easily be converted into a granny flat? A livable basement?

                                At least one set of parents could move in with you, possibly sell their home and contribute to your monthly housing expenses?

                                Also, if they need to move into a care home in future, that may benefit them when it comes to Medicare looking back to sold assets.

                                Have you seen: Accountants/CPAs: Share your experience, salary range, and job satisfaction?

                                #92497 Reply
                                Caleb

                                  Not to dog pile but that mortgage would keep me up at night. I don’t think you can take the pay cut and reasonably expect to pay all your living expenses.

                                  Probably just have to stick it out in your current job and start working on gaining more skills to try and increase your income.

                                  #92498 Reply
                                  Sharon

                                    I work for the Federal Government and I can tell you that the benefits are OUTSTANDING! Especially when it comes to health insurance. We get health insurance even after retirement which is unheard of and there are 30 plans to choose from!!

                                    I would easily take this job over any other for the benefits and job stability.

                                    #92499 Reply
                                    Wilson

                                      Is that mortgage a 15 year? Not sure what interest rate you have but maybe refinance to a 30 year if you don’t want to move.

                                      Any chance you could negotiate your own layoff and get a severance? Possibly that you’ll raise your hand if they need to cut more people?

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                                      Ashley

                                        Have you compared benefit packages? I know when I worked for the state the benefit difference alone was 20k easily.

                                        I had pension, my healthcare costs were very very low compared to comparable jobs, I got more vacation (plus sick and holiday) and flexibility with state too.

                                        Worth a look: Just started a new job and the 401k doesn’t have a small cap value fund… but I can invest in ARKK!

                                        #92501 Reply
                                        Alicia

                                          Can you rent a bedroom or covert the garage into a private room and rent it out to help with the 20K pay cut.

                                          #92502 Reply
                                          Dominique

                                            Normally govt jobs have a step pay schedule and also a general wage increase. Ask how increases are given. It’s more of a stable option. -current govt ee

                                            #92503 Reply
                                            Tom

                                              I would go federal if you are worried about layoffs. You get step 1-10 with pay increases as well as your cost of living increases each year. If it’s a ladder opportunity you would also go up higher in pay.

                                              Plus, a retirement pension that helps a little if you stay for a long time.

                                              Would agree with others that house is too much.

                                              #92504 Reply
                                              Sarah

                                                5500 made my stomach drop. Our mortgage is 1100 and our salaries are higher than yours. I’d move..

                                                #92505 Reply
                                                Tikvah

                                                  Is this a state government or federal government position? If federal, you can request to have your current pay taken into consideration and used to get you to a higher pay. I’d ask either way if it’s an option. You’d have to provide current pay stubs showing what you make.

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                                                  Rise

                                                    I would never take a $20k pay cut. Find something else.

                                                    Secondly, save drastically now. You have $3000. That’s a lot. Live frugally- on less than $1000? Save $2000 a month as long as you have this job.

                                                    If interest rates go down, refinance your house with this savings.

                                                    Thirdly, I read about a family that did special house hacking. They rented their home out AirBnB. The family stayed in a hotel during that time. Large homes in HCOL can be $500+ a night. Stay in a hotel for the weekend and rent your home out. There are some tricks- use a major closet for personal belongings and lock it when you are gone.

                                                    #92507 Reply
                                                    Rise

                                                      You are house poor. Taking a pay cut will make you house broke.

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